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odomca · Weanling Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2

The sabino gene is a spotting pattern gene that will also show roaning. It can and will show up minimally expressed (blaze, socks, ) and still show roaning, or it can show up maxed out and show one big white spot. This gene confuses people about roaning quite often.

Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

Well I'm pretty sure he's roan. I don't think it is the sabino gene.

This is a pic I took of his butt the other day and you can see at an angle all the whitish/silver hairs under his long winter guard hairs. Plus, you can see where he had been scratched and the scratch grew back in with no roan hairs so it's a darker blotch.

If you look close you can see it all over his body here, not just his butt and hip area, it's even up onto his neck.

summerhorse · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:15 am Post subject:

I don't think this is the sabino gene at work, these horses are all so minimally marked. One of the pictures of Pasha shows she has a dorsal stripe so she COULD be palomino dun (with sooty AND roan) or that could be a false dorsal. She certainly is an interesting mare! I suspect the roan came down the line so minimal they didn't put it on the horses papers, if you look back there are a couple of grey/roans in her pedigree too (well at least one).
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summerhorse · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:17 am Post subject:

Here is a roan grulla. In person it was very difficult to see he was roan and not just light grulla. http://community.webshots.com/myphotos?action=showPhoto&albumID=210447229&photoID=210529806&security=PKSDLR
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Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

That link doesn't work for me. Says something about the photo no longer being there.

dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

Meri, for what it's worth, I think that your colt DOES have the roaning you've described, the last pictures were proof enough for me. He's very pretty!

Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

Thanks, dc. I'm pretty proud of him myself. He's such a good little boy, though rapidly gaining the not so little stage. Smile

katemary63 · Yearling Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Dover, AR

Meri, I bred my mare to Hunker and have a filly by him. She is also a dun, no roan. My mare is bay and I was so thrilled to get the dun, (only had a 50/50 chance) I just joined this forum and thought I would say hi. My filly, Nicki, was born May 11, 2005. I just love her to death. How is your boy doing? I would post pictures here if I knew how.

ps, I have seen Posha and she is a sooty palomino roan. I think the sooty masks the roan a bit. You can not decide corect color by pedigrees. Many, many horses are registered incorrectly on color. Lots of people just don't care, even still.
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summerhorse · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:47 am Post subject:

That's weird about the link not working. It is now. If it doesn't just go to http://www.webshots.com/user/summerhorse and look under Breyerfest 2003 or 2004, LOL I forget!
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woodsqh · Weanling Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 8

summerhorse · Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:33 pm Post subject:

If she didn't have a dorsal at birth she isn't a dun (she can have a false dorsal and still not be dun). They were right in the palomino part they just left off the roan part, she should be palomino roan (or whatever they may call that). I dont' think they ever mention sooty on the papers. She's just very minimal roan and it doesn't show up well on dilutes anyway. But producing all those roans to non roan stallions shows without a doubt she is a roan, just a very minimal expression.
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