To Geld or not to Geld that is the question lol

Kassie Finley · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Texas

Ok I have this stud colt listed on my site as a future stallion prospect, but we sent him to the trainers this week and he is looking like he will make a really nice riding horse. Anyhow I was thinking about gelding him and taking him for me a rider, but someone told me I am crazy to geld him, but I think it is just because they want to breed their mare to next year. Anyhow before I make the final decision I want to know what others think. He is an Amber Champagne colt, VERY VERY gentle, and the trainer told me today, he is built really well. So I am torn, I really think he will make an awsome gelding, but then he might make a great stallion. I just don't know what to do? Should I just look for me a gelding else where and see what this colt does? Or do you think he is not stallion material?

this first picture his back leg looks like it toes out but it does not, he just had it turned out because he was facing the wrong direction and my husband spun him around and his back leg didn't move.

And here is some motion pictures:

His pedigree can be seen here:
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&horse=TWO+EYED+CHAMPAGNE&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=

JR · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject:

He's a cute guy, nothing majorly wrong with his legs. I have issue with his neck/ shoulder area. He's got a short neck and it's tied in high. Not the prettiest of heads either. Remove the champagne from his coloring and I'd bet your friend would be a lot less interested. His pedigree is bland and while he's sturdy looking, he's nothing phenominal that would make him stand out as an outstanding stallion.

My vote is to geld him, put a few summers on him and if he's as quiet as you say, you could probably make quite a profit selling him as a kids horse down the road.
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summerhorse · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject:

He's pretty but I don't see anything that screams STALLION PROSPECT either. I agree about the short neck/shoulder and his hind legs aren't the greatest, not horrible (seen plenty worse) but not outstanding. I think you'd both be better off with him as a nice gelding that people can ride.
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Bondama · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:27 am Post subject:

I third the emotion.
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skipitgirl · Member Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 85 Location: Ohio

I feel for you. But he is not stallion quality. My colt is in full time reining training and is doing fabulously. We had planned to keep him a stud but the trainer advised us that when riding with other horses, he completly loses it. He said we could have a stallion or a nice horse the entire family will be able to show. Not both. We have chosen to geld him in May when he comes home for 30 days. We are going to let him cover our QH mare before he is gelded and either she takes or she doesnt. But I would rather have a family show horse than a stud standing in my barn.

Joker w · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:05 am Post subject:

This can be a very cruel board but when posting this question you asked for criticizm.
I have to agree with everyone else, there are too many average stallions around back yards everywhere already. Sad

Kassie Finley · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Texas

Thank you very much everyone. I don't think the board is cruel at all, just full of people that know what they are talking about. It may not always be what you want to hear but, sometimes the truth hurts. If you want your ears tickled go ask someone that has never even seen a good horse before. lol. I posted this because I wanted to know the truth about him, deep down I really felt he would make a better gelding but, I loved his personality and disposition, along with is color so much I could not convince myself of it.

I talked with my vet today about gelding him, looks like after we get him back from the trainers after the first 30 days I will be gelding him, then sending him back to the trainers.

thanks for the honest and good reports. I think he is going to make an awsome little gelding.

dqh · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject:

He look like he will make a beautiful gelding! Good choice to have it done.
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Pedigree Fanatic · Member Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 120

I really and truly believe that for any colt to be left as a stallion he had better be simply out of this world wonderful in every single way...conformation, temperment, bloodlines...the whole package.

Otherwise I say geld them and let only the best of the best be breeders. It's better to have a great riding gelding with a couple of conformation flaws than to have a standing stallion with flaws who's going to pass them on to future generations.

baileyandjay · 2 Year Old Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 49

he looks like a nice horse, i really love his old bulldog style look but hes just not quite good enough to leave a stud. he should make a fantasic gelding.

Kassie Finley · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Texas

Well we had him gelded last week. Just before we gelded him we went to the trainers and saw him being ridden. He was AMAZING!!! He was so responsive, after only having 10 rides on him, I could not believe my eyes, the trainer told me since they started putting the saddle on him, he has not once offered to pitch, buck, crow hop, or kick. They said he was the most gentle two year old they had on the place. He was still in tact also. So now that he is gelded I think he will just get better and better. To this day he has not tried to get anyone off. He turned when they asked him to turn, he was quite under saddle, and they where troting and loping both directions, he was changing his leads correct. I could not believe he was a two year old with only 10 rides. The trainer said he thought he was going to make me an awsome little riding horse. "Little" so to speack, he is not done growing and already 15 hands. I can't wait to birng him home and start riding him and him and I getting use to each other. I will post pictures of him after I get to ride him some Smile

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kigers4ever · Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:

Kudos to you Kassy. So many people are blinded by their love for their horses that they cannot do the mature and approproiate thing. There are so many stallions out there that should have been cut. I take my hat off to you for doing the right thing. It sounds like you are truely enjoying your new gelding and I am sure you and he will have many happy trails together. Good luck. Please keep us posted on the progress.

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Kassie Finley · Member Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Location: Texas

Just thought I would post an update on this colt. We have now brought him home from the trainers, and he is AMAZING! The trainer loved him said he learned everything so quick and fast. I have been riding him all over the place, and nothing ruffles his feathers. He is awsome. I could not be happier with him. He is however somewhat lazy lol, but I don't mind that a bit. He does not like to go much over a walk, and his walk is really slow, but when you ask him to move he will go for you, he just preferes to walk. I can ride him alone or with a group he has no problems with either. Sometimes I have to remind myself he is a two year old and not to get to comfortable on him, afterall accidents can happen. But for the most part nothing has spooked him yet and he acts like a 10 year old. I love him, and gelding him was the best thing I could have done.