Rustler [UPDATED INFO]

horsewoman1965 · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: Rustler [UPDATED INFO]

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

Ok, in all honesty.. I would just enter him in the color class, which he's got plenty of! He just looks a bit gawky, a little "off", if you understand what I'm saying.. Just not real beefy.. Like he could use more width and a bit more butt.

He looks like he's in one of those awkward stages he could spring out of tomorrow though.. Just IMO looks a little off balance, although I think his front end, neck, head, all that is gorgeous! He just looks a little more "hay belly" and less really fit. And a bit peaky looking in his hip..

I'm having troubles explaining because it isn't really a conformation issue, nor a conditioning issue, more like he's just not filling out and building up in the right spots right at this moment in time. Know what I mean?

Don't take offense though, he's gorgeous, really!! I LOVE the color, and he looks very sleek, and what a nice neck! Love him!

How's the other one doing?? Any updated photo's of him?!?
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Inyureye · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:

Isn't he crooked? He might straighten out, but the pics show him cow hocked, and the front end is shown crooked, but that could just be the really bad picture. not very good confo pics. Got any better ones, standing straight on the pavement?
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horsewoman1965 · Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:44 am Post subject:

No offense at all.
I spent an hour on the phone about two to three weeks ago with a purina vet. I told her I was not happy with the strategy when it came to these growing colts. they always get ribby when they hit a growth spurt, which he was in. I ordered some DAC bloom and started adding alfalfa cubes (soaked) a couple weeks ago and she agreed the alfalfa should help and with a fat supplement should be fine using that with the strategy. so I am building up his mush (what I call it and boy does he love it) and have increased his strategy. so at least he has lost that ribby look.
He was moving around on most of these shots and I was by myself. I will try to get some help over the weekend and post better pics. I personally think he would do better going English events since I don't believe he will ever really muscle up like the typical cowhorse.
The most recent pics of Badger is under breeding and updated pics of 2007 babies. He has been separated from his mother about 2 weeks now and is coming along pretty well. He hit a growth spurt and vet said get him off his momma cause he was just nibbling feed, eating pasture and hay, and nursing and was getting contracted tendons. vet said mommas milk was too rich (go figure). so he is on a restricted calorie diet, only a couple pounds of strategy a day and all the hay he can eat and it seems to be working.
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Joey's_my_darlin' · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:59 am Post subject:

horsewoman1965 · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

Joey's_my_darlin' · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject:

Just ignore what I said...it just prompted me to think that a lot of qh's might be stabled as youngsters which may prevent them from getting enough hoof expansion to not have small feet...but I don't know enough background to make a conclusion like this. I shouldn't have said anything. Rolling Eyes

Sorry...ignore me... Embarassed

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horsewoman1965 · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: updates

just to show he is starting to fill out some and a better pic of the front and back. still kinda hard to get him to stand still, especially now that he is feeling super good. I'm having a time trying to get him to stand squared up so the show will definitely be interesting Laughing

anybody got any tips for getting a youngster that is full of energy to stand still???

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

I was dealing with my boy not wanting to stand still as well this summer.. Best thing I can say is that now that I've just let him be a horse he's more than happy to stand still for me! He's actually blossuming now that he's got more freedom, and our relationship has strengthened ten times over. Are you giving Rustler plenty of turnout time? They need that to burn off some energy, and lunging just doesn't do the trick. Some horses are happy to be stall critters, others want some freedom. You sometimes do need to stall them to keep them conditioned but they do need at least a few hours every day to just be a horse and have fun romping around. I would suggest turning him out in the early mornings with a sheet or blanket on and letting him tear around until about noon when the sun starts to do it's damage.

Although... And this probably would be best kept a secret.. But I do know of a farm who has bred, raised, trained, and shown arabians that have become national champions.. And quite honestly, some of those national champion halter horses do not get constant training, and do live outside all day long and stalled only at night. And on another farm, one mare in particular had a foal at side, being out on turnout, etc. and she won a canadian national championship with her mane and tail chewed on by the baby.. After that show they weaned off her foal and brought her in for some quick conditioning and she went on to win a U.S. national championship. That was my boy's momma.

You need to condition them physically, internally, and mentally. They need to be happy to really show and shine.
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horsewoman1965 · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:17 pm Post subject:

Just an update.
Today is Rustler's last day on the powerpack. He has really slowed down on eating but I've been told that can happen. Takes him forever to eat his strategy and doesn't eat but about half his mush. Be glad when he starts eating it all up again.
So, here is the Biggest news...HE got GELDED today!!! Along with pony baby and 2 yearling colts. I'm just sick and tired of dealing with the stud colts! I've always preferred mares so now these guys we've raised being geldings will be nice for a change, at least once all that testosterone (?) leaves their systems Laughing

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horsewoman1965 · Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:08 am Post subject:

Just wanted to update this.
Main thing being, Strategy with the alfalfa mush I was making worked for a time. Then after several months I noticed a problem. Rustler was getting real upright and looked like he was getting rickets! For those that don't know what that is, it is a nutritional imbalance. So, off the alfalfa. Waited about a month and changed him over to crimped oats. Then slowly started introducing the alfalfa again. Decided to change to pellets instead of the cubes, just easier to deal with. The problem has corrected its self over a period of several months.
So, no more strategy for him. He also gets DAC orange (which is vitamins and yeast mostly). All the horses also have free access to purina horse minerals (loose) and loose salt.
I haven't spoke with anyone from purina, yet.
I know strategy has alfalfa in it and apparently it was too much of a good thing.
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