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surprisewind
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: Free isn't always free... |
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What do you guys think of the stallions on this page? I don't think any of them would match up well with the mare (sticks an stones daughter, out of rocket wrangler mare, good race record, sweet SI, very productive female family) However, the cheapskate in me thinks the "free" part is interesting.
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I normally lurk around here but just had to comment on this one!
I have that website saved into my 'favorites' as I get a real kick out of checking it out to see what she's done next. Just this summer she said she needed to 'cut back' because she can't do everything alone yet she's back up to 11 stallions. I think she sold three or four stallions and then turned around and bought six new stallions. She's divorced and has a young daughter yet she continues to buy more and more horses and pump out dozens of foals every year. all the while crying on her website that she can't do it all alone. IMO the prices for her 'sale' horses are outrageous considering they haven't done a darn thing but stand around in a pasture. Someone on another MB went to look at her horses around two years ago and she felt so sorry for the horses that she brought at least one home - she was a well bred mare but was nothing but skin and bones. The person posted pics of what the mare looked like when they got her and it was sad. The person said there were other mares that were nothing but skin and bones as well but they didn't have the funds to purchase all of them.
And I just love how she's offering 'free' breedings to her stallions. I've followed her site for a while and when she was charging the stud fees were outrageous for what she was standing. Sure she's got horses with big names on their papers but none of them have done anything but she thinks the names are going to bring in the mares/people....
Sorry if I sound harsh but that gal irritates me to no end - crying about how she can't do everything alone yet just keeps buying new horses. |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:01 pm Post subject: Re: Free isn't always free... |
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| surprisewind wrote: | What do you guys think of the stallions on this page? I don't think any of them would match up well with the mare (sticks an stones daughter, out of rocket wrangler mare, good race record, sweet SI, very productive female family) However, the cheapskate in me thinks the "free" part is interesting.
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I think there are one or two stallions on there which are nice, but none of them are out of this world wonderful. They seem to be a mix of mostly foundation breeding with a little cutting, a little barrel racing, and a whole lot of who-knows-what-they-did horses. There are a few big names, but not enough, and way too many horses on the pedigrees you never heard of. Too many holes in the pedigrees.
A great stallion prospect should be mostly big names AND should have had a career himself in something other than just breeding. Or at the least, he should have produced foals that did something. All I see here is a few famous names peppered here and there on the papers, and some pretty colored stallions. There seems to be a lot more emphasis on color than ability, and that's a red flag.
I would rather pay a reasonable amount for a stud fee, than get a free stud fee and end up with a "so so" foal. |
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clippity_clop
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| Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I have also seen this site several times. I think some of these stallions look nice. I just checked out the bay tobiano and she says he's earned 52K in racing? Dallas Alley is his name. Zanton Firewater - the first stallion listed is supposed to be a money earner too. He definitely has a nice pedigree. I have always wondered why she had so many. And I also remember when there was a "need" to reduce on the website. Odd..lol.. |
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surprisewind
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| Posted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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I caught the dispersal thing, too, the second time I looked at the site. Yay for my reading comprehension skillzzz. Kinda wierd.
There were some good bloodlines there but they were older stallions with no accomplished offspring. I would think by the time they are in their teens they should have some kids out doing some stuff.
I'm having a hard time finding something to match my mare that is in my price range (I have to also consider vet fees, AI, and a 2 hour drive -one way- to the repro vet, boarding while she's there, etc etcetc). This is a mare I planned on breeding a couple of years in a row. One year she didn't take, and I chickened out and didn't rebreed. The second year I just panicked and didn't do anything at all with her. This time I really mean it, but it frightens me all to pieces. I'm scared of choosing the wrong stallion and creating yet another $50 weanling. |
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clippity_clop
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| Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| surprisewind wrote: | I caught the dispersal thing, too, the second time I looked at the site. Yay for my reading comprehension skillzzz. Kinda wierd.
There were some good bloodlines there but they were older stallions with no accomplished offspring. I would think by the time they are in their teens they should have some kids out doing some stuff.
I'm having a hard time finding something to match my mare that is in my price range (I have to also consider vet fees, AI, and a 2 hour drive -one way- to the repro vet, boarding while she's there, etc etcetc). This is a mare I planned on breeding a couple of years in a row. One year she didn't take, and I chickened out and didn't rebreed. The second year I just panicked and didn't do anything at all with her. This time I really mean it, but it frightens me all to pieces. I'm scared of choosing the wrong stallion and creating yet another $50 weanling. |
I can understand being nervous about breeding your mare but I don't know how you could create a $50 weanling unless you are not committed to the foal you breed. We have bred mares due in Spring but are committed to training any foals as they age if we don't find them a good home. I think as long as YOU are committed to the foal you breed, you won't have that $50 weanling worry. |
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surprisewind
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| Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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ok, maybe a slight exageration about the $50  but you understand my worries. My mare is awesome and is breeding quality (and before anyone thinks it's in the eye of the beholder, I promise I'm not the only one who thinks so). But if I choose the wrong breeding option....
I can promise this foal an awesome life and a great start, but ideally I will be selling the baby and would like to know I made the right pre-conception choices. If for some reason no one wants to buy baby I can keep him/her without a problem. Maybe I think/worry too much. |
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