What do yall think of this one?

barrelracingurl · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: What do yall think of this one?

Possibly thinking of buying this dun gelding. He is trained for barrel racing and pole bending and he's done 4H. I think he's got a nice head, a pretty good size back and neck and that's as far as I got. He'd probably be my mom's trail horse and just ride around at the shows because she doesn't have anything to ride right now and she just sits watching.

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

Wouldn't it be more practical to purchase a mare for your mother? From what I can see, you are into breeding and prices seem to be up there for any sex horse if it's a dun, etc... So you should be able to buy a nice riding mare that can double as a broodmare in place of a gelding. I'm sure he'd be fine for 4H showing, but that's about it.. his neck seems too thick and cresty and something seems not right about him but I just can't put my finger on it... Also, he's really up right and doesn't seem to flex well under saddle almost as if he's carrying himself on his front end. His hip seems small or underdeveloped for being a gaming horse that works off their rear. Perhaps the gal riding him should ease up on those reins a little and let him relax some and he could ride a bit more naturally.. I'm sure someone else would be a better judge of him than I am, I'm mostly an arab gal.. He does look like a friendly guy and well taken care of and has great color!

barrelracingurl · Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject:

Well, we already have a broodmare, and that was my moms riding horse, and she is due for a foal, so she can't ride her and we don't want that to keep happening. We haven't really found a broodmare that really catches our eye yet either, and we're going to move before we get one so we can build a big barn to keep an eye on her when we get one. We're not too into breeding, mostly into trail and occasional barrel races(we don't have that many). My mom wants a gelding and I thought he'd be the perfect horse for her because she doesn't have a whole lot of experience. I think he'd do the job for a while.
I wasn't really asking for a conformation critique, just asking if he looks like he'd be a nice horse to have around.
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lucky Clover Farm · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:09 am Post subject:

I ride my mares up until about a month before foaling and nothing better than riding a little bit with foal at side-especially if you want to work on halter training.
This horse looks a little too on the ball to be a completely safe trail riding horse. His neck is a little thick and not very long...nice shoulder-looks like a good bit of muscle in those hips. Looks like he might be built a little down hill.
From those pics thats about all you can tell
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Inyureye · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:

As a mom, if I wanted to ride around and have a solid, handy trail horse, I'd buy him. I think he would be perfect. For me, with long legs, I like a taller horse, but this guy looks great. He has kinda a long back, but who cares, he looks sound, by the way he's carrying himself, and not ouchy, he's been working well accroding to his history, the back probably doesn't bother him in anyway for how he's used. He's also verrry handsome, looks intelligent and willing, traits I would enjoy admiring on and off of him. If he's a good price, I say get him. If he is doing all the stuff you mentioned, I would suspect him to be handy on the trails and mountainsides (dunno where you live) and I'd love spending time on him. Looks intelligent and I love his head set. As for the mare stuff, if you want him for riding, I, the mom, would not want him to be a mare and preggo and not rideable during the pregnancy and after. Get your ma a nice gelding like him, I say!
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barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:50 am Post subject:

Yeah, my mom likes him. He's $1700 and I don't think that's a bad price for a good trail horse, and a dun for that matter! I think he'll be a good experience for my mom. I thought about letting her ride my horse some, but she is trained a bit differently than most horses. Sure, his neck is a little thick, but most geldings I have seen are, and he's barely 15 hands. He's the right size for my mom because she's a little on the short side, and has short legs, and she doesn't want a big tall horse. I like bigger horses though lol I also have long legs Laughing

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barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:02 am Post subject:

I forgot to mention that our mare is due anyday now. She was actually due June 6th but hasn't had it yet. The vet said that if she doesn't have it by August 1st, then to take her up there and he will see what he can do. I really hope everything is ok with her! Her weight on her back is a little down right now, from the baby sagging all of it down, but after she has it and we get her weight back up, we will probably post pictures! I know I will when the baby is born Smile

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

Well, I think that price seems pretty decent for a good all around horse. I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you weren't asking for a confo post.. I would suggest though that when you guys get him (if you do) to give him his head a little more, it seems like he's being held back some. Instead of riding him in a hack, maybe just try him in a halter and see how he is. I've had a lot of horses come to me for training that have been ridden primarily in hackamores, and they're usually ment for speed horses, etc. and I'll ride them just in a halter and a lot of them really start carrying themselves better and relax quite a bit. Perhaps he would get under himself more if he's given some freedom with his face. He seems as though he's got a nice ground covering walk, and a good disposition. How the heck is your short mom gonna ride him with that big round belly??! LOL! Well all that matters is that she likes him and works well with him. Did you mean July 6th is when your mare is due??

barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:26 pm Post subject:

Yeah, we give our horses their head a little more than that, but you have to keep an eye on our stud, but we dont really have a problem with him either. On trail I also always use long reins, because my barrel reins are extremely short! I also don't use a tie down when I'm just trail riding. They have another picture of a little kid riding him, if you want me to, I'll post it too. In that pic he has his head much lower and straighter and looks more comfortable for him. I forgot to post it before. No, my mare was due June 6th. My friends mare was also due last month, but didn't foal either.
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barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:

Here's that picture... does he look better here?

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

Yeah, you should post that one too. I wonder why your mare hasn't foaled yet?? It's kinda strange that you and your friend's mares are this much past due. Hopefully everything is going to be alright with the delivery, etc. Has the vet palpated her to check on the baby and make sure it's alright?

barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:43 pm Post subject:

Nope, he said to wait and see Sad

I don't really want to wait. If she doesn't have it soon we are going to take her to another city to get her palpated! I don't think that vet guy likes to do that, he's a dog person and is scared of horses Rolling Eyes

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dctrainingandlessons · Very Active Member Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 548

He looks WAY more comfortable and a joy to ride.. I wish you would've posted it sooner!! He looks nice in that picture, but also notice the reins have slack, just as I figured he'd drop down and get under himself better. He looked nervous or flighty in the other under saddle picture.

If I were you I would definately get another opinion on your mare and fast!! I am also an equine vet assistant and have had many times where clients from other clinics have come over and had horses checked out only to find that their vet was wrong.. It's human error and many times you can not blame them.. But some times you can.. Example: This spring a lady brought her mare to us AFTER she started getting depressed acting and acting as though she was sore all over. Well, her vet had diagnosed that the foal she was carrying was dead inside her and went ahead with an abortion procedure without a palpation. (At this point she was a month past due) Well, when this woman came to us, we were figuring that not all the fluid had been cleared from this mare and we examined her only to find that the baby was entirely inside the mare and still alive, but the previous vet had caused infection in the mother's womb. Needless to say, the baby was born a couple days later alive, but had to be euthanized because it was just barely hanging on after all this. The mare is still recooping from all this. Poor thing. I have to wonder if she would've come to us from the start if this baby would've been just fine. Anyway, I'm sure your mare is fine, but you should have a different vet check her and the baby out just to be sure..

barrelracingurl · Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:

Yeah, the only signs she is showing is she is bagging up a little, and she wants to be pet all the time(unlike before). She still wants to go to our stallion though, but when she gets near him she'll kick at him lol. It's funny to watch. Let me see if I have a picture of her... yep! It was a little while after we got her(she was a little underweight, but we've fattened her up, now shes back down again because of the foal) Just to show you what she looks like!

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