New QH Colt Opinions Please NEW PHOTOS!

Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

Hi all,
This is the second baby I have up for opinions, the other being my paint filly. This Quarter Horse boy is about the same age, around six days older. These pictures were mostly taken of him at two an a half months also, I think one was of him as a two month old or a little younger.

This guy was a little bit harder to photograph as he dosen't like to stand squared up in the pasture like my paint filly. I tried to upload the best of his pictures for confirmation critique. Once I get him home I can work with him on that. The only reason I uploaded that one of him leaning over and looking at something was because I thought it was a good shot of his head. He was actually sniffing MY head! lol I know he's just a baby, but for a baby how does he rate?

He's out of Hunker Down Dun and Pasha Woods DW and it looks like he is shedding off to be a Dun Roan. What do you all think?

I think he's a real big boy for a two and a half month old!

http://wolverine.cameron.edu/~mm082031/horses/jasper.html

I'm also looking for name suggestions on this little guy.

TX-WI · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject:

What a pretty boy. Looks great. Nice hardy type and pleasant to look at over all. Has very good build and bone structure and substance. He would I think hold his own at club shows in Halter but he is not exceptional enough for todays halter horse. Now maybe in a few years with the changes that are coming.

again, train this colt for everything. go for the allaround. He will excell at it.

How about "Hunka Wood"?
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Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

Well I'm just looking for a barn name as his registered name will be RRB Haidas Hired Doc.

They currently call him Jasper, but I don't think I want to keep that.

Thanks for the critique!

TX-WI · Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:25 pm Post subject:

I think Jasper is a dandy of a barn name. could go with Dunny Boy. Laughing

that stud I sold last spring, his barn name is Buzz and that was because my kids were hooked on Buzz Lightyear. I tend to name towards their personality and sometimes color/color pattern.
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lucky Clover Farm · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:

Wow! Now thats a baby-look at that forearm-those turkey tracks-that heart shaped hiney! Yes he is gonna be one nice boy....would fit right in on my list of studs to look at for breeding/buying to stand. I don't know about he roaing-maybe its rabicano through him-hard to tell in the pics.
But my oh my what a tanker
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RacingQH · Member Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Eastern WA.

He must have a roan parent to be a roan. Just looks like a dun to me.

JR · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:25 am Post subject:

agree with racingQH. He's a dun going through a shedding phase, no roan.

nice colt btw.
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Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

No, his dam carries the roan gene. Before him she threw a bay roan. Granted I haven't seen him in a few weeks since he has shed off, but the breeder says he is and she's been in the business for thirty plus years so I trust her opnion. Either way I'm happy with him.

This is a picture of his half sister I believe. http://www.countryhorses.com/files/money.jpg

And this is his full sister:
http://www.countryhorses.com/files/sandy.jpg

They both look roan to me!

Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

Here's a link to a photo page that has pics of Jasper all Shed off. The breeder was trying to capture the roaning on camera but said that her camera wouldn't focus right.

My Paint Filly, Isa is also in these pictures with Jasper. You can all tell its her by the outline of the man on her forehead! The rest are just pasture buddies!

The very bottom picture is a picture of his moms flank, again the breeder was trying to capture her roaning. I think it's difficult to see on a camera on that tan coat.

http://wolverine.cameron.edu/~mm082031/horses/babies.html

This page might take a while to load for the slower connections. I didn't have time to make them all thumbnails and then have them open in a new page.

RacingQH · Member Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Eastern WA.

I still say that the colt isn't a roan. If he was his head would be a different color than the rest of his body. Does he just have white "roaning" type hairs in his flanks? If so then he isn't a true roan.
They are both cute babies though. Congrats.

RA · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:32 am Post subject:

I'd be real interested in knowing if the half sister is a half sister on top or on bottom.
(i.e: whos her sire and whos her dam?)

In looking at your colts pedigree. (via: his full sister.)
There is NO possible way he or his full sister is roan.
UNLESS there where at least three horses on the top side who where registered with the wrong color.
OR there where at least four horses registered with the wrong color on the bottom side.

It takes roan to produce roan.
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JR · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:

I've got serious color issues on the pedigree of Pasha Woods DW

Too many people mixing up dun and buckskin along the way with some impossible color combinations.

Basically we need to know what color Adam's Hands ended up being. Her whole pedigree color scheme is fubar !

Good Enough Hands dam's colors are impossible, but since she's sorrel and it ends there.. I won't delve into that.

Six Adams is interesting.. he's grey with a possible roan gene as well as a possible creme gene and a possible dun gene.. any combination of the above or all of the above.

If Adams Hands stayed 'dun' and didn't grey out or didn't roan out.. the grey / roan ends there and can't possibly show up on her grandson. Most of these color modifiers (with the exception of rabicano) are dominant and can not skip generations. It takes one to make one. You can't get a dun out of two sorrels.. can't get a grey out of two bays.

If Pasha Woods DW is a true palomino with no grey or roan, again, she can't pass that on. Though one of her parents who are both listed as dun, was obviously a dunalino.. two duns cannot make a palomino.

Eh, I'm done rambling. LOL
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JR · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:11 am Post subject:

Meri · Member Joined: 22 Jul 2005 Posts: 59

First of all, I'm not sure Jasper is a roan myself. He may have a few roan hairs, but he doesn't look like the pictures I've seen of full roans where their body is so much lighter than their head and legs. That said, I also haven't seen this colt IN person for about a month and a half since he's shed off his baby coat.

That picture that RA put in his post of the first bay roan wasn't sired by Hunker Down Dun. That is the HALF sister who's Dam is Pasha Woods. Hired for Money I believe is the baby's name. The picture with the name Sandy, also sorta looks like a bay roan was the full sister to Jasper. By Hunker Down out of Pasha Woods.

This one is Sandy, full sister to Jasper. http://www.countryhorses.com/files/sandy.jpg

This is a picture of Pasha Woods http://www.countryhorses.com/pasha.html

She is one of the strangest looking mares I've ever seen. Would you all agree that the baby Sandy is a roan? If so then how did she end up that way if Pasha doesn't carry that gene because Hunker Down certainly doesn't. Can a horse carry the gene but not have a whole lot of the white hairs. And wouldn't the white hairs, if she did have them blend in pretty well on Pasha Woods? I'm imagining that roaning on her bay baby on her and I can see that blending in pretty well with her coat color. *Shrug* What do I know.

As for the pedigrees I have seen so many people call a horse one color and it be another. Since these are my first registered horses, I'm not sure how that all works and if you have to prove a horse is a certain color or not. I really don't CARE if he is a roan or not, because I think he's gorgeous either way.

Next tiime I talk to the breeder I'll have to ask her about the whole thing because now I'm curios.

As for all the discrepancies yall seem to be finding in the pedigrees I'm assuming your getting that information from the this website and if so I was under the impression that that information could be incorrect at times?

Also what does does Fence Jumping mean?

RA · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject:

Hired for Money X0602537 2001 bay roan stallion, foaled: 04/13/2001.
http://quarter-horse-times.com/pedigrees/QHT_RECORDSview.asp?key=851

Sire: Sandys Honest Money 1995
X0526257 buckskin.

Dam: Pasha Woods Dw 1996
3505781 palomino.
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