Fertility after gelding?

Inyureye · Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject:

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summerhorse · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 11:55 am Post subject:

The youngest fertile daddy I have known of (owned by a friend) was about 4-5 months old. The youngest I knew HIMSELF personally was 9 months old. the moral is don't leave your fillies and colts together and don't leave colts out with ponies and smaller girls! Mares have been known to lie down for short guys.

Because so much is removed in the stallion they SHOULD be sterile within 3 days but if you don't want foals I wouldn't be betting the farm on it. Because somewhere there is ALWAYS an exception to the rule! If they say wait 6-8 weeks to be sure I'd be waiting to be sure. Now in people they don'[t remove things they just cut the pathway and you BETTER be waiting at least 3 months before abandoning birth control! (and get tested first! Razz

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Now geldings, esp. those left entire longer will still mount and "breed' mares (so will dogs and cats) but since they have nothing to shoot (not EVEN blanks) its not a big deal. Well I'd be sure everyone was free of STDs before turning them out together. 8-D

I'm in NW FL and my mare cycles all year long. They just get more noticeable in the spring/summer.
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KiereeAngel86 · Weanling Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 3

Hey everyone, I am new here and though I know this thread stirred alot of stuff up, but I have some good info and one true experience. When in doubt wait is what I always say because I had a beautiful filly out of a 2 week, 5 day gelding. Someone left the adjoining gate open and they got together. No one saw him mount my mare including me so I was sure that things were ok. Well 9 months later, I notice my mare had put on alot of weight so I say 'What If", so I have the vet out. Thank God all turned out well because my mare had no extra care or vaccines. When baby was born, we did DNA (mom and dad were both registered Arabians)
and sure enough, he was Dad. Now would you like to know the kicker to this story, Dad was a whopping 11 months old. My friends little gelding was lost to Dystal Cervical Myopathy (sp?) at 19 months, so it was a blessing for her to have my filly. I just had my guy gelded on his 1 year birthday (tee hehe)and kept him away from the mares for 6 weeks just to be safe. Hope this helps someone
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KiereeAngel86 · Weanling Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 3

Hey everyone, I am new here and though I know this thread stirred alot of stuff up, but I have some good info and one true experience. When in doubt wait is what I always say because I had a beautiful filly out of a 2 week, 5 day gelding. Someone left the adjoining gate open and they got together. No one saw him mount my mare including me so I was sure that things were ok. Well 9 months later, I notice my mare had put on alot of weight so I say 'What If", so I have the vet out. Thank God all turned out well because my mare had no extra care or vaccines. When baby was born, we did DNA (mom and dad were both registered Arabians)
and sure enough, he was Dad. Now would you like to know the kicker to this story, Dad was a whopping 11 months old. My friends little gelding was lost to Dystal Cervical Myopathy (sp?) at 19 months, so it was a blessing for her to have my filly. I just had my guy gelded on his 1 year birthday (tee hehe)and kept him away from the mares for 6 weeks just to be safe. Hope this helps someone
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kylendiamond · Member Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 69

I can definitely say that 1 of the 3 was NOT bred. (the horny one) I can't say for sure about the other 2, but the 2 yr. old definitely has absolutely no sign of a belly on her (she would be at almost 7 mos. by now) and the other mare has a little bit of belly, but she is a large-bodied mare anyway and I just stuck them on free choice hay instead of somewhat rationed hay (4 of them are cleaning up a roll of hay in 5.5 days.)

Sorry I hadn't updated sooner, but I hadn't been able to post on here for awhile due to computer issues, but they are resolved now.

awesometiming · Yearling Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 19 Location: BC canada

I was soooo happy to find this thread.. i joined right away. I have a similiar situation. We had bought a grulla qh foundation 5 year old stallion, had him gelded and turned him out approx 3-5 days later with my 5 year old paint mare. I since have sold him (and have regretted it ever since) and I have been wondering the exact same thing. I am almost hoping that he could have still had a couple of fertile sperms left. I asked my vet who said they MAY be good for one shot after gelding but that it was highly unlikely. I guess only time will tell. I have thought about having the vet out to test my mare, but knowing the chances are very slim, havent bothered. I havent noticed any signs of heat in her yet, but our other two mares have shown very active heat all summer. So, I guess all I can do is keep my fingers crossed....

sylvie hebert · Yearling Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 22 Location: louisiana

from january to march 1993 we have a june 1992 tb colt by chromite in the field with an apaloosa mare and a mare mule....forward a few months later the apaloosa mare is sold and then in february 1994 drops a gorgeous chestnut colt.she was never exposed to any other gelding or stud either before or after.....so we bloodtype the colt and get him registred as an apaloosa.now this cunning tb colt had never acted studdish and we never saw him mount a mar...he was gelded beginning of april 1993...go figure...

Gloria · Yearling Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 24

Yeah a male horse can remain fertile for a short period of time after he is gelded. A registerd Morgan mare at the pasture turned out to be pregnant and no one knew who the daddy was. They got her checked out when they noticed she was getting big for no apparent reason. It turned out that this one year old youngster had jumped through the fence after he was gelded and somenow able to perform his task in mind even though she was so much taller than he was. Luckily this boy was a handsome registered Morgan so the owners were sort of pleased with it.

kylendiamond · Member Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 69

Lucky me, no one has gained any weight. So, I can sell 2 of the mares without any question, and I can breed the other this spring as planned.

awesometiming · Yearling Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 19 Location: BC canada

would a maiden mare "show" at 7 months? when would a preg. mare start to show? I imagine its different for every mare though, just like people...

kylendiamond · Member Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 69

Well, they would be at almost 10 months at this point, so, I would think they would be showing at least a little. Besides, the one I felt would have been most likely has been coming into heat regularly.

Christina_Lee · Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject:

Hmm.. well i certainly think its possible for you mare to be pragnant.. As for MackinacWhiskey, I really think he/she should just well.. leave. Im new here and I am already sick of what she has to say. Forums arent ment for people to say bad things to eachother, we are all trying to learn and are asking EACHOTHER for advise, not to be called and idiot or a liar. I would have also wondered the VERY SAME THING! Im glad this was discussed and am upset that MackinacWhiskey had to be very rude about the hole thing.

Just my imput Very Happy

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swordale · Weanling Joined: 05 Dec 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Scotland

I have read this entire post and OMG where did mac come from? tee hee if I read off the net can I become a pro too? just to add a little twist to the story a yearling colt that I now own impregnated a yearling filly prior to him being delivered to me, it has been confirmed by a vet but she is too far on to inject as this may cause serious health risks apparently, I have not experienced this before so I do not know the likely outcome other than it`s very high risk! This was not mine or the filies now owners fault in any way, it was down to the sheer neglect and mismanagement of the so called stud owner they were apparently bred at!! but its ok because nothing can be done about her and she is left to trade on while us innocent folks pick up the pieces!!
BTW both yearlings were born in the month of june as far as we know and the filly has apprx 3 months to go!? so some clever person out there can do the maths.
I will however let you know the out come, my colt is DNA`d so we will have proof too!!

Falling · Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:43 pm Post subject:

Talk about tempests in the teapot! Great thread though.

The barn I used to work at regularly had young colts to geld and had to hold them off the rest of the herd for a few weeks- we had quite a few close calls, but only one accident.

I do know of several friends who gelded their colts and left them out with the mares a few days later- and ended up with foals. Grade horses everywhere, but at least it was all worked out for the best- we love them possibly more than the purebreds we have. Luckily I tend to gravitate to horse people who have the same views I do- confirmation first, everything else second.

awesometiming · Yearling Joined: 29 Sep 2006 Posts: 19 Location: BC canada

I am still playing the waiting game. My mare certainly doesnt look pregnant, but I guess thats not really an indicator with a maiden mare. Only time will tell I guess. I will keep you all posted.. I DOUBT she is, but hey, theres always a chance!