Professional Pedigree Researchers?

Ryan · Active Member Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 321

Is there such a thing? Group? Association?

Do horses have nything like the Professional Genealogist? Is there such a group?

There are business that offer such research - like Robin Glenn, but Glenn's and many others started off as their own personal hobby turned business.

Breed Associations should have some knowledge, but do they seek out and hire "certificated" or trained pedigree researchers.
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whnywriter · Active Member Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 429

Ryan,

I know of no such group. Susan Larkin is one of the most meticulous pedigree researchers who I personally know and use. Her strengths are Thoroughbred, Quarter Horse and Paint Horse.

Frank Holmes
Kiowa, Co

Where the wind chill this morning is 42 below zero...

x factor fan · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:26 am Post subject:

Based on what I've seen, anyone can call themselves a pedigree researcher. And the person can be good, or they can be a nutbar.

Anyone who wants to see pedigree research gone bad, should take a look at the endless thread in Racing over on the TB side of the board. 400 + pages of so called pedigree research. Utter nonsense.

And then there are folks like Pat and Dee who take this seriously.

dee of CA · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:09 pm Post subject: Pedigree researchers

Thanks X-Factor, I do want to put the best information on the ABDB that I can find. If I find a mistake, I do everything to get the right data.

This is an open question. On a draft horse site, someone warned people about this site. I think that this is one of the best of its kind. Does anyone else agree? And if anyone has a question about a pedigree, they should ask someone on the message board.

I realize there are many things that could be improved. I would like to see each breed with its own call up site Smile

When you enter the breed, it would go to say, Clydesdale., Appaloosa etc. Also, I would like to have some more breed designations like French Coach horse, German Coach, Suffolk. If not maybe just plain Coach Horse. Other just doesn't say much.

Just my 2 cents Wink

Dee of CA

Ryan · Active Member Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 321

Thanks guys. I kinda figured that. I know Susan's work and agree 100% with Franks comments. She knows here stuff.

See you in Texas Frank...It should be warmer. Clues on your Leo book date release???

Dee I have a couple of old Clydesdales ( came out of Canada into US early 1900's) I need some pedigree of. Do you have those studbooks?
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x factor fan · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:15 am Post subject:

Was it about the all breed side of things or the TB?

Have you taken a look at the Sporthorse database? Really nice site, and those folks do a great job. Given the many different breeds of sport horses, they have some of the same problems the all breed side has. Might want to take a look and see if any of their solutions could be applied over here.

Here's a question that I've been meaning to ask for a while. I come across Draft horse pictures and article in odd places, sometimes unexpected sources. The books online resources are getting better and better each time I visit them. Lots of old books have entire chapters on breeds of draft horses with photos of old time champions.

Do you want to know about these? Or should I just figure that you already know about them?

Pat has had a longterm interest in remount stallions, so when those show up I try to post links and photos.

Maybe the question should be what exactly are you looking for?

dee of CA · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject: Pedigree researchers

Ryan, Just let me know the names of the Clydesdales and their DOBs and I will try to find out any info for you. Post them here.

I neglected to say I am not a professional researcher. I am just a scholar without a degree.

Dee of CA

dee of CA · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:03 pm Post subject: Pedigree researchers

X-Factor Fan, The remark was about the ABDB.

I have been to the Sportshorse siteand it is good. I am mostly on this site to enter info, but certainly look at others contributions. I like to see info in stud books and show results.

I have found so much info on draft horses, that I have run out of things to google. Archives.com has a lot of good info. I have seen things written as long ago as 1876

I would be glad to hear what you have found, and would be happy to share my sources. I am now a member of Draft Horse Village. Love to see all the photos of their draft horses. Lately they have been capering in the snow.

Dee of CA

DallasMN · Yearling Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 13 Location: Minnesota

I would say that there have been professional pedigree reseachers!! I've been raising Appaloosas since the 1960's and have hired Pat Mefferd and Marilyn Carr of Moberly, Mo to research several of the Appaloosas that I purchased over the years. They also included research on the AQHA and TB's that were in those Appaloosa pedigrees. I don't know if they totally supported themselves on their pedigree research?? Of course, from these boards we know that Pat has retired, but Marilyn Carr still has a classified ad in the Appaloosa Journal magazine for pedigree research. Her pedigrees are far superior to the ones one would get from the Appaloosa Horse Club!!!

x factor fan · Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:51 am Post subject:

There is a difference between an individual that is a pedigree researcher that in all way is professional, like the folks that you mentioned. And someone that claims to be a pedigree researcher just because they can make up some business cards and spell the word correctly.

There doesn't seem to be any professional group out there, there don't seem to be any license requirement, no way of policing members behaving badly.

It is a tribute the honesty and quality of the folks doing pedigree research that they haven't needed regulations in place to enforce honorable behavior.

Pat Mefferd · Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:52 pm Post subject:

Oh Gosh....Been away from the computer and pedigree's and was trying to catch up on things.

First....I would like to say THANK YOU to all the nice things said about me, as a researcher! This work has been my passion for many years and continues.

To my knowledge there is no group or association or certification for pedigree researchers. There are Sales companies that have resesarchers in their employ.

I started out on my own, self taught....I did work for Tom Caldwell (Macklin-Caldwell Sales) in Ontario, CA. on a as-needed basis. They had a regular staff, but when they got really overloaded with work, they gave me a call...and learned a lot about the Thoroughbred horse working for them.

It was in the 1970's, that Susan Larkin and I became "buddies". As Frank says...she is tops in research...she is a professional in my book.

Pat
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