C-Notes Sawbuck

[rodeoratdogs]

Oh I understand that it can express differently on each horse, but that doesn't have anything to do with weather or not it is a simple dominant or not, that was my point.

My gelding APHA I CD SPOT is a very minimal or slipped tobiano, so minimal he was registered solid paint bred. His sire was a solid ( as in not a stitch of white) and his dam was a minimal HZ tobiano. I had him tested because I knew he was heterozygous tobiano and they had an article this month in the Paint horse journal about slipped tobiano's and I wanted to submit his photo. They did use my geldings picture in the article. Now I have sent in a sample of his DNA for a study they Dr Susan Youngren at Stevenson university is doing to try and understand the genetic cause in the variation of white in the tobiano pattern. Youngren's hypothesis is that the inversion or region close to the KIT gene that is inheritied along with the inversion, is involved in the expression of the tobiano pattern.

I CD SPOT http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/i+cd+spot


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[whnywriter]

Interesting photo of "Sawbuck." I don't recall ever seeing it.

So, getting back to your original post, Sawbuck was not a minimal sabino; he was a maximum sabino...colored very much like his maternal grandson Scenic Jetalito (who was a double-bred C-Note).

As far as my limited knowledge of genetics can tell, all of the sabino expression in this line is coming through Nylon. Mister J Bar, Pocohontas and C-Note were frame overos.

C-Note's Sawbuck and Scenic Jetalito sired like you would expect maximum sabinos to sire...90 percent color regardless of the mare. And both sired sabinos that covered the entire spectrum of the pattern.


Frank Holmes
Kiowa, CO

Glad you received the book...

[rodeoratdogs]

Exactly that's why we suspect that the Nylon line was DW because of Sawbuck and Scenic Jetalito. The only difference is that DW is a simple dominant that only requires on parent to maximally express like that and other forms of KIT or sabino require's one from each parent to maximally express. That being said from what I understand a DW carrier isn't always maximally expressed.

The girl with the filly from this line did get a hold of the people doing the study on Dominant white and they want her to send in a sample, she also is going to try to get the owners of Too Cool for You to send in a sample to confirm if they are indeed DW carriers.
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[rodeoratdogs]

There was a couple of things on the March issue in the PHJ that I thought would be nice to share on this thread.
First in Recollections there was a nice article "POWER PACKED" on C-NOTE and the impact he had on the breed, esspecially through his son Jetalito but the article also mentioned C-Notes Sawbuck, I thought that was rather timely.
Also very interesting in the Paint Portfolio was Paint horse takes Italian Reining Futurity Championship.
Gunners Frostbite a 2007 solid white Stallion blew paste fellow competitors with a 214.5 score.
Here is the link to the Italian Reining website, he is in the row of horses at the top of the page, it moves back and forth you can't miss him Another Dominant white Paint?
http://www.itrha.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1&lang=it
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[warchief]

Jetalito was not a son of C-Note. He was out of a daughter.

[rodeoratdogs]

Oh your right my bad, "grand son" out of C-Notes Rosalita by C-Note.
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