Adding New Breeds

Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

Is there a way to add another breed that is not already on the site?

Thanks!
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Inyureye · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:01 pm Post subject:

We can direct the question to the owners of the site, and see if they can adjust the programming, I am not sure that it can be done. Just out of curiosity, what breed are you thinking of which isn't already on there?
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Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

The NEZ PERCE HORSE. It is in its second generation. They are NOT Appaloosas, tho they do have some in their lineage. It is a breed developed by the Nez Perce Tribe, trying to recapture the original Nez Perce Horse that existed prior to the Indian Wars of the later 1800's. Since they are in their second generation of the Breed, it would be nice to keep track as the breed expands. The tribe just held their first production sale. Some sold as far away as France.

Thanks for your time! Smile

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karel · Weanling Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 2

Inyureye · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:12 am Post subject:

Equinely yours, I will copy your explaination of the Nez Pierce horses to Miles, the owner of the site. I think it is a great opportunity to track the pedigrees of a breed in the database. Realize that this is a user-maintained database - the entries are 'yours' to make, 'yours' to maintain (if you want to keep them updated and clean of other's fiddling) and as such suseptible to other people making (perhaps) erroneous adjusments or additions to your entries, so it is a good idea to do as Sam and RA have suggested, and as they and other folks do, routinely make copies on disc or on your puter of pedigrees on this database which concern you and as you update them, so if anything happens you can duplicate your efforts with less trauma - hopefully you won't need to. I would suggest asking RA how he keeps backup records of this database or of certain entries in it which he works on. Might be helpful.
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Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

Thank you much!

The website is www.nezpercehorseregistry.com
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Inyureye · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:12 pm Post subject:

EY, I emailed a request to Brian and Miles who write the database, and copied you at your email address you give on this forum. Let me know if you don't hear anything about it, but do give them a few days. I think adding the nez perce horse is a great idea, especially as these horses are disbursing all ove the world. It will be a great opportunity to keep track of the breed as it becomes established, and to see what happens with them. Good luck in your research!

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Inyureye · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:21 pm Post subject:

Karel - you sound dutch? Welcome.

Inyureye · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:29 pm Post subject:

Both Karel and Equinely yours, I would very much like to hear more about your breeds.

EY, can you say what the Nez Perce are doing to create their breed? What is the story behing where they are getting their foundation stock from, what are their criteria for choosing the horses, what happened to all their old stock (did every one get destroyed?) and what are their conformation and performance goals and how are they doing with those?

Karel, can you tell us what your horses are like? I see the word "Arab" in the name of the horse, are they small or larger, like the Dutch Warmblood? Are these horses being used for endurance or for dressage?

Got any pics? Very Happy

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Sam · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

Inyureye · Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject:

Interesting. That's sort of what I figured, so a breed has to be "isolated" for some generations probably other criteria too to establish characteristics, which the "pure" of the breed will breed true to? Such as what folks are doing with the mustenos they found in a couple of locations, and some folks are trying to preserve in breeding, they have been isolated long enough to have characteristics which will bear in their get? I didn't know if the nez perce are trying to isolate characteristics, or are just breeding "their" own herds. Well, time will tell if they begin to show up with horses with tendencies which can eventually be called a breed.
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karel · Weanling Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 2

Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

I do agree with some of what Sam had to say. But, I think a lot of breeds start out with someone thinking of financial gain. (TB's, QH's, NSH's, Paints, ponies, etc., etc.) They find their niche and go for it. I'm not Native American, but have lived & worked with them most of my life. I have also lived in Europe for 3 years. The Native American culture is very big over there. It's always fascinated them more than the average American, I think. That's why a Frenchman bought an airline ticket to a remote location to buy horses that have never been to town, let alone transported 1/2 way across the world! He came over to the sale as an order buyer. He did say that if it was his own money to spend, he would have bought them all.

I went to the sale, & I must admit my expectations were not too high. Thought I might find a good deal. If they had taken these horses to the Great Big Regional Sale, they would have been lucky to break even on their expenses getting there. But they found their niche, and they are making the most of it. The horses sold for quite a bit more than what they would at any other sale. I was pretty impressed by the yearlings that went thru. I generally don't pay attention to yearlings, I'm too impatient to wait for them to grow up! Smile

But there were quite a few that had me sitting on my hands so I wouldn't bid.

It will be very interesting to see what happens now that the breed is out in the world!
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Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

Oh, and I posted a link to the Nez Perce Registry on a previous post, but here it is again. It will have most of the info you requested.

http://www.nezpercehorseregistry.com

Thanks!
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Inyureye · Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:39 pm Post subject:

Nice presentation on the subject. It will be ineteresting to follow it and see what happens. What you said about the europeans and the "red indian" as they were once long ago known as in england (to differentiate from those of their colony of Inida, I think) I think is true. Some were captured by the british and shipped over there for 'display' and presentation to the reigning monarch in the old days - the people I mean, not horses. Sad but an odd interest.
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