Adding New Breeds

Pat Sunstrom · Member Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 115

In reference to the cross-breeding discussion.....

I think what the Nez Pierce (and other private breeders) are trying to do is breed back to a source of original genetic material that was there before the introduction of draft, remount and the other cross-breeding that was introduced.
This is done in (animal husbandry) cases where the original stock has been cross bred significatly and a return to the orignal genetic composition is needed.
Basically, they work back towards the original, using a clear breed standard, eliminating all the animals they produce that are not close enough to the correct type. After X number of generations you should have it.

It really is a fasinating concept, but only if great care is given to the selection of stock involved.

This is another case where there's room for everyone's perference in types.

Pat Sunstrom

Inyureye · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:49 am Post subject:

Pat, this is what I had heard about the venture several years ago, and had hopeed that this is what they are doing. LIke I said, twill be interesting to watch.
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Sam · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:11 pm Post subject:

Pat Sunstrom · Member Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 115

Following is from the Akhal-Teke registry page written byEdwina J Cruise;

[size=9]Contrary to what has been written about the breed, the Akhal-Teke is not native to Russia; the Akhal-Teke origins predate the founding of the Russian state by three thousand years. Nor, as has been asserted, it the Akhal-Teke a warmblood. Like the Arabian and the English Thoroughbred -- two breeds to which the older Akhal-Teke made significant contributions -- the breed belongs to the hotblood category.

The Akhal-Teke is the only remaining pure strain of ancient Turkmene horse, a breed whose common ancestors bear a succession of different names over time: Massaget, Parthian, Nisean, Persian, Turkmene and finally, Akhal-Teke. [/size]

This tells that this is an much older genetic source that just a Russian breed.

No one is saying that the Akhal-Teke was "the" horse that was here before the cross-breeding in the America's. You just try to get the cleanest "old" genetics still available to you today. You could go with any of the Spanish Colonial genetic sourcesthat are still available to try to achieve a genetic composition of the traits that you have selected for.

Pat Sunstrom

Sam · Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:00 pm Post subject:

Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

And as I said before, everything has its niche:

TB - racing
QH - cow horses
Warmbloods - eventing
Shire - draft

It goes on & on. The horse industry is just like any other. Airlines, you have your legacy airlines (Delta, American, United), and you have more and more low fare airlines (Southwest, Jet Blue).

I know that when I lived in Europe for those 3 years, that if I could have gotten a truck load of Pendleton blankets, I could have come back to the States a millionaire. When I was there, mountain bikes were just gaining popularity in the US, and were a novelty in Europe. When I left, I sold my used Huffy for twice what I paid for it new. With the blankets, I could have got 3-5 times the normal cost.

Marketing 101 - establish your niche! Smile

The Nez Perce, along with every other tribe along the Lewis Clark Trail, have great big plans to celebrate the bicentennial. Yes, they are cashing in on 23 white men, 1 black slave, & 1 Indian woman. I don't begrudge them, hope it works. They will all be marketing to the hilt. I plan on enjoying it all I can.
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Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

Inyureye ~ Any news on this front?

Thanks,
EY
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Inyureye · Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:51 am Post subject:

Oh, sorry, about adding the Nez Perce horse to the database? I will have to re-correspond with Brad and ask him. I am at work and can do this tonight when I get home. Give me a day or two to hear from him. I know I had asked him before, but then I moved and didn't catch up with an email from him, off line for a week or so. I'll check if out, though, should be not a prob once I get through to him. Later, C.

Equinely Yours · Yearling Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 12

Been out of town. Just saw this today.

Thanks!
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julie · Yearling Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 26

is there the race "French pony of saddle" integrated in the site?

Inyureye · Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:

Selle Francais? Should be there
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julie · Yearling Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 26

but pony

kim · Member Joined: 13 Jan 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Austria

Hi, I also have a new breed to enter: Fallabella pony.
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ArabFan · Member Joined: 11 Mar 2005 Posts: 164

I vented about this on one of the other subforums but if there could be a 'Model Horse' or "Sim Horse" designation...I've come across way too many horses that don't exist that are being entered by model collectors and/or sim game fans....arrggh.

Sam · Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject: