what think of this horse?

[julie]

Hello,
I will have liked to know what you think of this horse:
it is a horse French saddle 3 years it was qualified for the candidatures spread out:
















Thank you (I am French thus I use a translator on Internet to be able to speak to you on the forum)

[Nordwind]

i also use a translator sometimes
i am from austria and since school i have rarely spoken/written english....

about the horse:
especially on the first foto the horse looks very pretty faced and he has a wonderful colour. it also seems that he has very responsible gaits?!

the only thing, which deranges me, is that it seems, that his croup looks like it would seceding? and on the third photo it seems like he run on his forehand

[julie]

I will put another photograph of him to you at the model

[TX-WI]

What breed of horse did you say this was?

At first glance, he has a nice presentation but I find that his hindend does not match his front end and he does appear that his hindquarters are much lower than his front end.

His head is nice and expresive, he is compact but I would like to see his neck tie in a bit higher into his chest, maybe his back to be longer and a heavier muscled hindquarter.
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gdh

I've started an exercise program.
I do 20 sit-ups each morning.
That may not sound like a lot, but you can only hit that snooze button so many times

[Taliesin]

"Selle Francaise" -- which the translation thing rendered "French saddle" (and that of course is its literal meaning).

[julie]

yes "selle français"

It is very massive, it measures 1m70
it is not very muscular because it is only 3 years old and it is stripped recently. We will work it for the candidates standard on June 14, 2005. It has much force but donot can make use of it yet on the bars.
I don't understand "hindend"
is what you wanted to say: is its back hand too small compared to its before hand?
on the photograph one does not see it very impressive because my friend measures 1m95. Donc does not see that the horse is tall.

[Inyureye]

I was thinking this is desireable for dressage, the uphill build. The horse can get his hind quarters under him for power. Those of us used to looking at Quarter horses might find this disconcerting, but it might be that his build is appropriate for his breed, although I don't know that for sure, not familiar with the Selle Francais. I think he looks pretty great, good luck with the upcoming competitions, Julie.
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[julie]

I do not know if I included/understood well, but we seek horses having much balance like him. it has a very good gallop, directed very well, it are held always enormously on these hips I would try to show you a video when I have one of him of them.

[Taliesin]

In my neighborhood, we would say, give that boy lots of uphill trotting workouts (to develop those hindquarters)!

[TX-WI]

A French Saddle horse. Are they like the American Saddlebred? does this mean he is gaited?

I dug thru some old horse books I have and he looks a lot like some of the old style saddle horses. That would make sense then.
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gdh

I've started an exercise program.
I do 20 sit-ups each morning.
That may not sound like a lot, but you can only hit that snooze button so many times

[Taliesin]

Interesting idea! -- but I always thought of them as being kind of the French Thoroughbred equivalent.

From the Web site http://www.sellefrancais.org/about.htm:

"Generally of a strong but elegant type, the "ideal" Selle Francais conformation is that of a large-boned Thoroughbred with a strong back, a long neck, an expressive head, and sturdy legs with good bone and joints. Normally in the 16.0 h - 17.0 h size range, Selle Francais horses are seen in many colors, but bays and chestnuts are the most predominant.

The Selle Francais excels in show jumping, but they also can be found competing successfully in dressage and eventing. .."

[kim]

A Selle Francais is a french Warmblood horse. It's got absolutely nothing to do with American Saddlebred. The Selle Francais is selected for it's riding horse points and it's always 3 gaited! They make superb performance mounts and are to me the athlete model for riding horses! One of my all time favourite show jumping horse is Baloubet du Rouet of Rodrigo Pessoa - a Selle Francais. They often have a very massive croup but for a 3 years old the croup is okay, trot him a lot and he will also get the muscles build up. The basic substance of the muscles is okay, they just need to be "blown", sorry, I don't find another word for it... I think for a three year old he's fine but a little immature in musculature.
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[julie]

I don't understand "warmblood".


I made research to look what resembles the race "saddlebred americain" and the "French saddle" does not resemble to them at all.

"saddlebred" celon that I sees, one a very high wearing of head, very long and flat backs, paces very raised.

Their heads resemble a little bit the head of our "Anglo-Arab", enough fine and expressive. They have also I find, of very long gun, which I do not like too much in a horse.

The "French saddle" are more compact in their backs, are very massive, with much balance on the hips, but before hand carried with middle height. To play a part of beam at the time of the effort.

I will seek you photographs of a "French saddle". (a photograph found on Internet so that you can compare.)

[julie]

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[Taliesin]

Hi, Julie --

Not sure what the problem is, can you re-post without the "quotes"?

FYI, I think you mean "barrel" not "gun" -- ?

Warmblood veut dire cheval comme Trakehner, Holsteiner, etc. -- Selle Francaise aussi, peut-etre.

Cold-blooded horses are draft animals like Percheron, Clydesdale.

Hot-blooded horses are American Thoroughbred, Arabians -- high-spirited horses that tend to be in flat racing.

Warmbloods are in between -- and that's where many of the jumpers are, like Baloubet!

Of course this has nothing to do with actual "blood" -- it is the spirit.